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	<description>Isn't it time you were heard?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Things I want to do before I die. by Richard L. Burton III</title>
		<link>http://easyshout.com/2009/10/17/things-i-want-to-do-before-i-die/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard L. Burton III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the idea from someone a weee bit smarter than you. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the idea from someone a weee bit smarter than you. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Things I want to do before I die. by bern</title>
		<link>http://easyshout.com/2009/10/17/things-i-want-to-do-before-i-die/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>bern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice list. wonder where you got the idea from lol &lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice list. wonder where you got the idea from lol &lt;3</p>
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		<title>Comment on In response to Obie Fernandez&#8217;s blog entry. by james</title>
		<link>http://easyshout.com/2009/04/06/in-response-to-obie-fernandezs-blog-entry/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obie, 

Usually you use two arguments:
- they are sloppy ruby programmers and you base this on their remark on kind_of? usage. I think this can easily backfire considering they have the biggest rails installation and you did not even see their code base. So why are you so sure they are that bad?  Have you ever dealt with similar traffic or a big project like theirs before? If not, I would rather believe them than you.


- they should have used Jruby 
Except when they make their decision in early 2008 jruby was much slower than now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obie, </p>
<p>Usually you use two arguments:<br />
- they are sloppy ruby programmers and you base this on their remark on kind_of? usage. I think this can easily backfire considering they have the biggest rails installation and you did not even see their code base. So why are you so sure they are that bad?  Have you ever dealt with similar traffic or a big project like theirs before? If not, I would rather believe them than you.</p>
<p>- they should have used Jruby<br />
Except when they make their decision in early 2008 jruby was much slower than now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In response to Obie Fernandez&#8217;s blog entry. by Richard L. Burton III</title>
		<link>http://easyshout.com/2009/04/06/in-response-to-obie-fernandezs-blog-entry/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard L. Burton III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obie I respect your honesty. Most people wouldn&#039;t openly say the things you&#039;ve said or react the way you&#039;ve reacted thus far. 

My only complaint is we (Software Engineers) are becoming that of which we hate. People who push solutions for the sole purpose of financial gains, regardless if it&#039;s a good fit. 

The Ruby community, like any other, is no different when it comes to defending their language.  The Java community never openly admits they have an addiction to writing frameworks or embraces a million APIs or half baked JSRs. For this very reason, I commend Alex for making his choice and being vocal about it. I know he&#039;s received a lot of praise as well as backlash, but in the end I think he&#039;s made good choice. To your point Obie, there are cases in which he down talks Ruby i.e., &quot;fine for people clicking around Web pages&quot;, but that&#039;s not a very strong argument.

There&#039;s nothing wrong with challenging another&#039;s opinion. I think it&#039;s something that should be done more frequently vs. having people blindly accepting and following what someone says.

Richard L. Burton III
http://twitter.com/rburton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obie I respect your honesty. Most people wouldn&#8217;t openly say the things you&#8217;ve said or react the way you&#8217;ve reacted thus far. </p>
<p>My only complaint is we (Software Engineers) are becoming that of which we hate. People who push solutions for the sole purpose of financial gains, regardless if it&#8217;s a good fit. </p>
<p>The Ruby community, like any other, is no different when it comes to defending their language.  The Java community never openly admits they have an addiction to writing frameworks or embraces a million APIs or half baked JSRs. For this very reason, I commend Alex for making his choice and being vocal about it. I know he&#8217;s received a lot of praise as well as backlash, but in the end I think he&#8217;s made good choice. To your point Obie, there are cases in which he down talks Ruby i.e., &#8220;fine for people clicking around Web pages&#8221;, but that&#8217;s not a very strong argument.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with challenging another&#8217;s opinion. I think it&#8217;s something that should be done more frequently vs. having people blindly accepting and following what someone says.</p>
<p>Richard L. Burton III<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/rburton" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/rburton</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on In response to Obie Fernandez&#8217;s blog entry. by Obie</title>
		<link>http://easyshout.com/2009/04/06/in-response-to-obie-fernandezs-blog-entry/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Obie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not looking for sympathy or support or anything at all except maybe an acknowledgment from Alex that it was their crappy Ruby code that cause them problems and not the Ruby platform.

Overall, it&#039;s just a game and I love playing it.

Cheers,
Obie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not looking for sympathy or support or anything at all except maybe an acknowledgment from Alex that it was their crappy Ruby code that cause them problems and not the Ruby platform.</p>
<p>Overall, it&#8217;s just a game and I love playing it.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Obie</p>
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		<title>Comment on In response to Obie Fernandez&#8217;s blog entry. by james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Obie, 

I would feel for you, except you guys used exactly the same arguments and techniques against Java back in the day (rails is sooo much more productive, rewriting a java app in rails took just 5 days, oh and there was this bit too http://www.jroller.com/obie/entry/top_10_reasons_why_java )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Obie, </p>
<p>I would feel for you, except you guys used exactly the same arguments and techniques against Java back in the day (rails is sooo much more productive, rewriting a java app in rails took just 5 days, oh and there was this bit too <a href="http://www.jroller.com/obie/entry/top_10_reasons_why_java" rel="nofollow">http://www.jroller.com/obie/entry/top_10_reasons_why_java</a> )</p>
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		<title>Comment on In response to Obie Fernandez&#8217;s blog entry. by Obie</title>
		<link>http://easyshout.com/2009/04/06/in-response-to-obie-fernandezs-blog-entry/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Obie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sole intention was to demonstrate that Alex is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. On one side he&#039;s dissing Ruby and Rails at every opportunity, including public talks where he can claim that irresponsible journalism twisted his words. On the other side, he&#039;s saying &quot;Can&#039;t we all get along?&quot;

No, when you unfairly criticize Ruby and Rails and get the idiot masses in a lather about it then those of us that dare, especially those that are financially motivated need to step up and balance out the the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sole intention was to demonstrate that Alex is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. On one side he&#8217;s dissing Ruby and Rails at every opportunity, including public talks where he can claim that irresponsible journalism twisted his words. On the other side, he&#8217;s saying &#8220;Can&#8217;t we all get along?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, when you unfairly criticize Ruby and Rails and get the idiot masses in a lather about it then those of us that dare, especially those that are financially motivated need to step up and balance out the the discussion.</p>
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